MartiNZ
May 4, 08:39 PM
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Would be my preferred way. Enough with physical media. Very progressive of Apple.
And in a much more prepared way than progressive has been in the past - people are more prepared to lose the optical drive now than they were to lose the floppy drive back in '98. We have such good alternatives now!
I look forward to dling and presumably making a bootable memory stick. And hopefully we don't have to wait much longer :).
Would be my preferred way. Enough with physical media. Very progressive of Apple.
And in a much more prepared way than progressive has been in the past - people are more prepared to lose the optical drive now than they were to lose the floppy drive back in '98. We have such good alternatives now!
I look forward to dling and presumably making a bootable memory stick. And hopefully we don't have to wait much longer :).
shaolindave
May 4, 03:29 PM
two things:
a) Does nobody read?
From TFA:
Granted, I think that the article is a little bit of intentional flamebait because they use wishywashy words like "preferred" to start up a discussion to ratchet up page views.... But come on, people. We all know that every time Macrumors tries to start controversy on a perceived "change" in functionality or standards, nine times out of ten there's more than one option available... '
yes, I'm sure we all read that. it doesn't really answer any questions though.
i have physical versions of iLife and iWork (or did, actually). my family lost our iWork disc. I still have it installed on my hard drive. I COULD buy it from the app store, but it'd cost me full price (again).
what if I buy Lion from the app store, then my computer fails or i replace the hard drive. yes, i do have the option of buying a physical disc, but i'd have to pay full price (again).
if they allow to app store version to be burned to disc or copied to USB drive, awesome, that'll solve the problem. however, so far this is being presented as a digital download, not an alternative means to get a physical copy.
a) Does nobody read?
From TFA:
Granted, I think that the article is a little bit of intentional flamebait because they use wishywashy words like "preferred" to start up a discussion to ratchet up page views.... But come on, people. We all know that every time Macrumors tries to start controversy on a perceived "change" in functionality or standards, nine times out of ten there's more than one option available... '
yes, I'm sure we all read that. it doesn't really answer any questions though.
i have physical versions of iLife and iWork (or did, actually). my family lost our iWork disc. I still have it installed on my hard drive. I COULD buy it from the app store, but it'd cost me full price (again).
what if I buy Lion from the app store, then my computer fails or i replace the hard drive. yes, i do have the option of buying a physical disc, but i'd have to pay full price (again).
if they allow to app store version to be burned to disc or copied to USB drive, awesome, that'll solve the problem. however, so far this is being presented as a digital download, not an alternative means to get a physical copy.
Hildron101010
Mar 30, 08:24 PM
And yes, you can remove Launchpad from the dock.
I will have to try it again, I couldn't get it to work last time.
I will have to try it again, I couldn't get it to work last time.
danielbriggs
Sep 15, 04:54 PM
FINALLY!!
The more people that are reporting rumors, them more "true" they can become!
I too like the keyboard and like the backlight. Am I correct in thinking that the MacBook DOES NOT have a backlight keyboard? I'm not that fuss on those style keys!
Dan :-)
The more people that are reporting rumors, them more "true" they can become!
I too like the keyboard and like the backlight. Am I correct in thinking that the MacBook DOES NOT have a backlight keyboard? I'm not that fuss on those style keys!
Dan :-)
bigandy
Nov 22, 06:48 AM
That quote from Palm's CEO sounds like the mad ramblings of someone very worried their market share is about to plummet completely... :rolleyes:
ender78
Aug 11, 05:33 PM
I'm definitely holding out for Merom now since it seems like it's coming within the month. Customers Christmas shopping will compare laptops across all brands and if Apple isn't sporting a Merom they're gonna lose a lot of laptop sales. And I'm willing to wait since OS X 10.5 is even more 64-bit than 10.4 is, I'd be nice to have a 64-bit processor instead of a 32-bit processor running a 64-bit OS (yes i know 10.5 will run on 32-bit processors), although the overall benefits are up to discussion.
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna buy the memory today (long story I have to spend within the week 200 dollars store credit at CompUSA) and put it in the Macbook when I get it, hopefully within the month.
I'm correct in assuming that Yonah and Merom takes the EXACT same type/speed of ram right?
As far as I know there are now only two types of RAM in the lineup. 667 DDR2 in the Mac mini, iMac, MB, MBP and FB-DIMS in the Mac Pro and Intel Xserve. A local dealer I spoke to loves this. It really makes stocking RAM much easier.
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna buy the memory today (long story I have to spend within the week 200 dollars store credit at CompUSA) and put it in the Macbook when I get it, hopefully within the month.
I'm correct in assuming that Yonah and Merom takes the EXACT same type/speed of ram right?
As far as I know there are now only two types of RAM in the lineup. 667 DDR2 in the Mac mini, iMac, MB, MBP and FB-DIMS in the Mac Pro and Intel Xserve. A local dealer I spoke to loves this. It really makes stocking RAM much easier.
Eidorian
Aug 11, 10:11 AM
Are there any benchmarks for the Core 2 Duo chips? What would we be getting from the upgrade?Merom or Conroe?
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GregA
May 6, 03:03 AM
This seems like an inevitable move in the convergence of iOS devices and Mac computers. They will eventually be the same thing. Powerful, robust, thin, power efficient, easy to use touch interface.
I don't think Macs will move to ARM.
I do think we'll see MUCH more convergence of iOS 5 and OSX Lion than people are expecting - the 2 OSes will truly be released as "partner" OSes.
Perhaps we'll see an iOS laptop - an iPad with a keyboard basically. Perhaps Macs will run iPad apps alongside dashboard apps. Certainly macs will add touch screens as soon as touch screens don't cost too much extra.
Apple will certainly be keeping their options open.
I don't think Macs will move to ARM.
I do think we'll see MUCH more convergence of iOS 5 and OSX Lion than people are expecting - the 2 OSes will truly be released as "partner" OSes.
Perhaps we'll see an iOS laptop - an iPad with a keyboard basically. Perhaps Macs will run iPad apps alongside dashboard apps. Certainly macs will add touch screens as soon as touch screens don't cost too much extra.
Apple will certainly be keeping their options open.
MacRumors
Aug 3, 10:24 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)
Appleinsider reports (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1939) that according to their sources, Apple is expected to quickly adopt Intel's newest line of processors - the mobile Core 2 Duo - which was announced last week (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060727103453.shtml).
According to a source familiar with the Mac maker's plans, the company is slated to receive mass shipments of the new Merom Core 2 Duo processors by the first week of September and plans to be amongst the first PC manufacturers to introduce systems based on the new chips.
Apple's current iMac, MacBook, MacBook Pro and Mac mini use the original Core Duo/Solo chips which were introduced earlier this year. Early unconfirmed rumors hinted that Apple was very interested (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/09/20050926161551.shtml) in getting the Merom chips as early as possible. This rumor indicates that Apple will remain aggressive with their product line upgrades.
The first Core 2 Duo (Merom) benchmarks (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/01/first_core-2_duo_benchmarks/) have already been making the rounds:
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Appleinsider reports (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1939) that according to their sources, Apple is expected to quickly adopt Intel's newest line of processors - the mobile Core 2 Duo - which was announced last week (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060727103453.shtml).
According to a source familiar with the Mac maker's plans, the company is slated to receive mass shipments of the new Merom Core 2 Duo processors by the first week of September and plans to be amongst the first PC manufacturers to introduce systems based on the new chips.
Apple's current iMac, MacBook, MacBook Pro and Mac mini use the original Core Duo/Solo chips which were introduced earlier this year. Early unconfirmed rumors hinted that Apple was very interested (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/09/20050926161551.shtml) in getting the Merom chips as early as possible. This rumor indicates that Apple will remain aggressive with their product line upgrades.
The first Core 2 Duo (Merom) benchmarks (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/01/first_core-2_duo_benchmarks/) have already been making the rounds:
archipellago
Apr 26, 04:41 PM
What's that got to do with anything?
it s called
'Straw Clutching'
in simple terms the Android 'deal' offers much more for less outlay (in some cases 50%+ less outlay)
both from a hardware and software point of view.
..and the new ASUS transformer tablet will show the real reasons Jobs didn't want flash to succeed!
it s called
'Straw Clutching'
in simple terms the Android 'deal' offers much more for less outlay (in some cases 50%+ less outlay)
both from a hardware and software point of view.
..and the new ASUS transformer tablet will show the real reasons Jobs didn't want flash to succeed!
Piggie
Apr 18, 03:19 PM
How on earth, in a million years could Apple say the Samsung Honeycomb Tablet is by any stretch of the imagination copying the UI of iOS on the iPad.
Have not all Apple fans been saying how terrible Honeycomb is, in comparison, and more like a complex desktop UI than the simple mobile iOS.
It's just crazy.
As for the physical design? Errrr, a tablet, oblong with a sheet of glass on the front?
Have not all Apple fans been saying how terrible Honeycomb is, in comparison, and more like a complex desktop UI than the simple mobile iOS.
It's just crazy.
As for the physical design? Errrr, a tablet, oblong with a sheet of glass on the front?
sineplex
Apr 20, 02:03 AM
I also don't understand how some of you think it is possible to have a significantly larger screen without making the phone bigger.
If they make the screen edge to edge it will become 4 inches without any changes to the physical phone dimension.
If they make the screen edge to edge it will become 4 inches without any changes to the physical phone dimension.
chugg
Apr 18, 03:23 PM
Yay go Apple. From the little guy everyone cheered for to the ... big guy that sues everyone and still has everyone cheering for.
wclyffe
Dec 8, 12:53 PM
Well guys, I just called my local Apple store and they have the kit in stock. That, and given the 1 -2 months delivery on apple.com and no news at all from BLT, means that for me at least, it's time to bite the bullet.
I've thought about doing the same thing, but I'm traveling most of December and won't be in my car much. Look forward to your thoughts especially about how well the bluetooth speakerphone works while driving around.
I've thought about doing the same thing, but I'm traveling most of December and won't be in my car much. Look forward to your thoughts especially about how well the bluetooth speakerphone works while driving around.
Rot'nApple
Apr 25, 09:59 AM
How so? Everything he said fits the facts as we know them.
Shouldn't that read, "Everything he said fit the facts as we NOW know them." And who provided those facts again? Was it Steve?!...
There is NO evidence that this information gets transmitted to ANYONE, and believe me people are looking hard to prove otherwise.
What people are looking? The press? The "journalistic" dingbats of today couldn't do an expose on how to break out of a wet paper bag if their life depended on it. The brilliant politicians?! They don't know squat and are only as informed as (in this case, Apple), their source lets them be. Otherwise they know squat!
So this makes Steve look like he's telling the truth.
That remains to be seen. What about that backdating crap Apple pulled? Steve may have been aware of the action but not necessarily aware of the consequences!
"I apologize to Apple's shareholders and employees for these problems, which happened on my watch. They are completely out of character for Apple," Jobs said in a statement. "We will now work to resolve the remaining issues as quickly as possible and to put the proper remedial measures in place to ensure that this never happens again." (http://www.thestreet.com/story/10313125/apple-owns-up-to-backdating.html)
Anyone think, maybe, Steve will have to dust off this speech again to "Sent from my iPhone"?...
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Shouldn't that read, "Everything he said fit the facts as we NOW know them." And who provided those facts again? Was it Steve?!...
There is NO evidence that this information gets transmitted to ANYONE, and believe me people are looking hard to prove otherwise.
What people are looking? The press? The "journalistic" dingbats of today couldn't do an expose on how to break out of a wet paper bag if their life depended on it. The brilliant politicians?! They don't know squat and are only as informed as (in this case, Apple), their source lets them be. Otherwise they know squat!
So this makes Steve look like he's telling the truth.
That remains to be seen. What about that backdating crap Apple pulled? Steve may have been aware of the action but not necessarily aware of the consequences!
"I apologize to Apple's shareholders and employees for these problems, which happened on my watch. They are completely out of character for Apple," Jobs said in a statement. "We will now work to resolve the remaining issues as quickly as possible and to put the proper remedial measures in place to ensure that this never happens again." (http://www.thestreet.com/story/10313125/apple-owns-up-to-backdating.html)
Anyone think, maybe, Steve will have to dust off this speech again to "Sent from my iPhone"?...
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iZac
Mar 26, 09:56 PM
Perhaps in the same way that Apple previously pulled OSX software engineers to help polish iOS, they're now focusing on getting Lion out the door?
Either that or a decent notification solution is still eluding them :P
Either that or a decent notification solution is still eluding them :P
joelypolly
Mar 28, 10:39 AM
It may be an iPhone 4[S] release this year and an iPhone 5 next year. Personally I think the iPhone 4 could be faster but what else can you do to the device in terms of hardware that would make it more attractive to other 95% of non geeks that use the phone? No much would be the answer.
However, improved software will go a long way to give users a better experience using the system. I hope things like notification, syncing and perhaps a general interface refresh is coming to iOS 5. Also wouldn't mind an updated camera app with white balance and shutter speed control.
In terms of the iOS API I think Apple will probably have quite a few surprises in store for us.
I think the Tick Tock release schedule that Intel setup really makes a lot of sense for Apple as well. One version to introduce an idea and one version to optimise the idea. (see 3G to 3G[S], iPad to iPad 2 and perhaps 4 to 4[S])
However, improved software will go a long way to give users a better experience using the system. I hope things like notification, syncing and perhaps a general interface refresh is coming to iOS 5. Also wouldn't mind an updated camera app with white balance and shutter speed control.
In terms of the iOS API I think Apple will probably have quite a few surprises in store for us.
I think the Tick Tock release schedule that Intel setup really makes a lot of sense for Apple as well. One version to introduce an idea and one version to optimise the idea. (see 3G to 3G[S], iPad to iPad 2 and perhaps 4 to 4[S])
Westacular
Apr 23, 04:51 PM
I think Apple is simply futureproofing here, and we won't see Retina displays for 3+ years, when it would be more feasible.
I agree with you, though, it would be nice if Apple was more serious about their GPUs. Maybe the switch to retina will force them to be.
Agreed re: future-proofing, but are you seriously suggesting that Apple isn't serious about GPUs? They've probably got a higher "minimum acceptable" standard for GPU performance than any other manufacturer. The one thing they don't do is chase the bleeding edge super-high-end gaming GPUs.
Also: games don't HAVE to render at native display resolutions. And as resolution gets higher, the artifacts from not being at the native level become much less visible.
I agree with you, though, it would be nice if Apple was more serious about their GPUs. Maybe the switch to retina will force them to be.
Agreed re: future-proofing, but are you seriously suggesting that Apple isn't serious about GPUs? They've probably got a higher "minimum acceptable" standard for GPU performance than any other manufacturer. The one thing they don't do is chase the bleeding edge super-high-end gaming GPUs.
Also: games don't HAVE to render at native display resolutions. And as resolution gets higher, the artifacts from not being at the native level become much less visible.
iliketyla
Mar 29, 01:49 PM
and with our working hours and attitude we'll have 5 finished iPods by the end of the day instead of 493840384038403840 :P
Yeah you bring up a good point. I can't imagine assembling iPods is the most engaging activity ever, and most Americans would probably scoff at the kind of labor they seem to think is below them.
Kind of similar to when they raise an uproar about illegal immigrants taking all the jobs away, when they wouldn't be caught dead doing the kind of work some immigrants do.
Yeah you bring up a good point. I can't imagine assembling iPods is the most engaging activity ever, and most Americans would probably scoff at the kind of labor they seem to think is below them.
Kind of similar to when they raise an uproar about illegal immigrants taking all the jobs away, when they wouldn't be caught dead doing the kind of work some immigrants do.
Warbrain
Nov 26, 10:39 AM
To me, Tablets are worthless. I've had to deal with them at work because some people continue to order them for all their tasks, but they're less mobile than some laptops. They're usually the same thickness or size as a portable, so why carry something that's going to be crippled in some manner?
cyberone
Nov 22, 11:20 PM
colligan:
I went through 8 - eight - treo 650, because the hardware quality was so poor, not to mention the constant resets.
now, imagine, i have a phone without a reset button. no, its not a palm device.
and i bet the iphone wont have a reset button.
your phones were decent - compared to the competition - three years ago with the announcement of the 650.
others have long overtaken you. and you have no answer.
I bet you cant wait to see that iphone and realize what you've all missed.
I went through 8 - eight - treo 650, because the hardware quality was so poor, not to mention the constant resets.
now, imagine, i have a phone without a reset button. no, its not a palm device.
and i bet the iphone wont have a reset button.
your phones were decent - compared to the competition - three years ago with the announcement of the 650.
others have long overtaken you. and you have no answer.
I bet you cant wait to see that iphone and realize what you've all missed.
bdkennedy1
Mar 28, 10:02 AM
So? Do any of those phones have 1/10th the user experience of the iPhone? Who is standing in line for them? Do you question the speed of the electronics in your TV set? No because it does what it's supposed to do.
Yes, precisely. Android and other handsets are moving to Tegra 2/Orion based platforms with maybe quad core SoCs coming in Fall '11 from nVidia. An A5 equipped iPhone shipping around September would be outdated the minute it hits the shelves as far as hardware is concerned.
With Pocket Legends already reporting that gaming on Android is making them more money than on iOS and this delay in Apple's usual release schedule, it could mean that iOS gaming could lose out to Android and set the pace for future developments, just like what happened to Apple in the 80s with the rise of the PC.
While I doubt we have anything to worry about short term as iOS device owners, if they keep this up in the long term and keep losing ground to Android, it might become a problem.
Yes, precisely. Android and other handsets are moving to Tegra 2/Orion based platforms with maybe quad core SoCs coming in Fall '11 from nVidia. An A5 equipped iPhone shipping around September would be outdated the minute it hits the shelves as far as hardware is concerned.
With Pocket Legends already reporting that gaming on Android is making them more money than on iOS and this delay in Apple's usual release schedule, it could mean that iOS gaming could lose out to Android and set the pace for future developments, just like what happened to Apple in the 80s with the rise of the PC.
While I doubt we have anything to worry about short term as iOS device owners, if they keep this up in the long term and keep losing ground to Android, it might become a problem.
BRLawyer
Nov 27, 12:10 PM
ps. No point abusing others' ideas.
No point in what? I am stating my OWN ideas.
No point in what? I am stating my OWN ideas.
Howdr
Apr 5, 02:29 PM
Yes they can. There is no protection under law for making money off the ineptitude of other companies. Apple is entitled, and expected to fix bugs. When those bugs get fixed, an avenue for jail breaking gets closed. Companies that see their revenue stream dry up are just screwed. That's life.
Jail breaking happens because Apple screwed the pooch on security. That's all.
Thats the problem you missed
restraint of trade,
Apple would take Microsoft or any other company to court in o.0005 seconds if restraint of trade was against them.
Jail breaking is ruled legal by the federal government
Cydia and theme it require Jailbreaking to sell the apps they have.
Cydia and theme it are legally selling apps
Apple then goes after Jailbreaking and restrains Cydia and theme it from doing legal trade
This is not a legal act by Apple, so they say its patching for security reasons ( A lie)
You call it security yet the doorway used to jailbreak the Iphone or Ipad has never been used for anything else then Jailbreaking.
Your using an Apple company tactic of telling us its unsafe, you work for apple or believe the unsupported claims by Apple.
Apple believes it looses money from Jailbreaking because these people now buy from other sources than Apple's app store.
I find it sad that so many believe what ever Apple says is the truth.
Apple is a multi billion dollar company that needs to make money all the time off of you. they need your money and undying loyalty. :apple:
( I know people will not agree with my take on this, its fine, I hate big corporations and how they lie to us, look at the Japanese and the lies from the power company, it happens again and again everyday)
Jail breaking happens because Apple screwed the pooch on security. That's all.
Thats the problem you missed
restraint of trade,
Apple would take Microsoft or any other company to court in o.0005 seconds if restraint of trade was against them.
Jail breaking is ruled legal by the federal government
Cydia and theme it require Jailbreaking to sell the apps they have.
Cydia and theme it are legally selling apps
Apple then goes after Jailbreaking and restrains Cydia and theme it from doing legal trade
This is not a legal act by Apple, so they say its patching for security reasons ( A lie)
You call it security yet the doorway used to jailbreak the Iphone or Ipad has never been used for anything else then Jailbreaking.
Your using an Apple company tactic of telling us its unsafe, you work for apple or believe the unsupported claims by Apple.
Apple believes it looses money from Jailbreaking because these people now buy from other sources than Apple's app store.
I find it sad that so many believe what ever Apple says is the truth.
Apple is a multi billion dollar company that needs to make money all the time off of you. they need your money and undying loyalty. :apple:
( I know people will not agree with my take on this, its fine, I hate big corporations and how they lie to us, look at the Japanese and the lies from the power company, it happens again and again everyday)